Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

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Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby viking60 » 10 Sep 2012, 08:58

The big news is that Apple will present iPhone5 on the 12th of September. There will be opportunity to sleep in front of Apple stores all over the world.
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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby R_Head » 12 Sep 2012, 12:25

I rather have a Galaxy; at least I can walk to the store and get one comfortably and civilized.

Have to hand it to Uncle Stevie, he knew how to mind control his followers. :lol:

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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby viking60 » 13 Sep 2012, 10:10

Oh yes he was the master of marketing. In terms of results his comeback at Apple is more impressive than Bill Gates starting and building Microsoft.
Today iPhone is bigger than Microsoft (Not Apple - only the iPhone department). Apple is a huge money machine and has to get used to the big brother role. What I have a problem with is this urge to control the content on their gadgets (No nudity etc) - how on earth can a serious newspaper publish its stuff on an Apple app when their editor can be overridden by Apple?
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And then there is this patented remote controlling of your camera based on location (Thank God for that patent - so that others cannot copy that particularly stupid idea). The true Genius lies in the understanding of the human nature:

Apple has been selling a successful lifestyle more than anything else. For years you could see nothing but Apple laps in Hollywood movies. This "product placement" has been a strategy for years and helped build the link between Apple and the particularly good looking and successful.
Every id.... especially those with confidence or peacock problems will of course be a sucker for Apple products after that. Combined with some good design - it just sky rocketed.

I am not sure it will last, since Apple seems to be more dependent on "fashion" than, say Microsoft......

The computers are based on Unix/BSD which seems to be a solid foundation but it has become a very remote relative to Linux since it is very closed. This frustrates me every time a try a OS X product. But that is probably just fine for the average Apple user - he wants to use it - not to fix it - as Jobs has stated on several occasions.

Anyway iPhone5 is out now. There are no surprises an no WoW factors but a bigger screen, improved camera, aluminum backside to avoid breakage.
It does not have wireless charging (rumors had mention it). It works and it looks good and it is slimmer.
Pretty much what was expected - and that is unusual in Apple terms. They always seem to have a "by the way" statement to blow their audience away and that does create a huge hype - not so this time.
Also there is a new dock and adapter so the Apple people will have to buy new cables and adapters too so it will in fact be somewhat more expensive to upgrade from iPhone4 than it looks at first sight. Many Apple people dislike that....
Still the iPhone5 is good enough and will probably be a huge success.
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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby rolf » 13 Sep 2012, 19:13

GF's sister has iPhone4, I think, and the latest excitement with that is she can call her sister on an iPhone in Vietnam for free! GF has to buy minutes with a local Vietnamese retailer at a rate that is still competitive but not free. IDK if there is a similar app that can be installed to GF's Evo 4G and will look into that, by and by. We speculate, however, that Apple is subsidizing this as one aspect of the marketing "genius". (In quotes as IMO genius can be a good thing but, in this case, the results are not so good for me, so maybe it's more an evil genius.)

One of my political activist sites sent me an email that might be accurate in focusing more on one of the evil aspects of Apple:


Because of how Jobs closed down and exploits the free spirit of OSS and, making it worse, how this empire so aggressively limits choice to only spending more money on this enterprise, Apple is not for me.

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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby viking60 » 13 Sep 2012, 21:51

No and it is easy to forget in this hype that Android phones are the market leaders not the iOS (iPhones). So if the choice of the consumers do count, then Samsung would be a better alternative.
Apple has inherited the "to big for this world" syndrome from Microsoft: At some point in time they seemed to think that anything successful was a Microsoft property by definition, the aggressive Apple attacks against Samsung have the same smell.

If the car industry should act in the same way then Mercedes VW and BMW would probably still be fighting Mazda Toyota and Honda in court.
Those Japanese did run around all over Europe in the 60/70's with Cameras taking pictures of everything - and copying it.
Mercedes BMW and VW were confident enough to compete with better products, and when they were beaten once in a while, they toke the signal and made it better the next time and so on.

Today the consumers are happy to have the choice and both German and Japanese cars are good. Gotlieb Daimler did invent the high speed petrol engine that is quite important in a car :-D
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Imaging if Daimler Benz would use that to shut everyone else out?
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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby rolf » 14 Sep 2012, 05:34

viking60 wrote:Those Japanese did run around all over Europe in the 60/70's with Cameras taking pictures of everything - and copying it.

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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby viking60 » 14 Sep 2012, 09:15

Ha yes good old Datsun (Nissan) they copied in the US too. Regarding your driving Apple has just the App for it:
ImageI did not know they were spying on drivers license plates too. :f
Now everybody can be the Police and turn you in; the police will get a copy of every thing sent - like the FBI did - and your insurance company will get a copy too. It is enough that your neighbor hates you and you are screwed.
Stay away from Apple - buy a Samsung! I have no illusions about Googles privacy policy but this sucks big time.
It does not matter if you have a smartphone or not; you are the victim of other peoples moods anyway, while you are dynamically driving your Datsun.
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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby R_Head » 14 Sep 2012, 14:36

What that brings is the following...

Have anybody seen the movie Starship Troopers?
They have a "commercial" that says that you might be seating on fat reward;

:S "Hey citizen! If you see something, say something."

Is also the catch phrase for the Dept of Homeland Security.

Is going to be such a mess!

People will be desperate for cash and false accusations for a small reward will be rampant. :(

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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby viking60 » 16 Sep 2012, 09:31

As usual the iPhones are sold out now so people have to wait to get one. This is a part of Apples strategy so their popular products mostly always are sold out; it adds to the extra hype and the free articles in the press.
Apple never have enough products - it makes you want them more....

Or Apple are the worst planers in the world with absolutely no clue about their market.....
Here is a comparison of the two main players in the mobile phone market.
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Re: Apple to present iPhone5 in two days

Postby R_Head » 17 Sep 2012, 12:38

They play that stupid game of Scarcity.

The people is gullible that falls for that.

What people are buying is bragging rights; that is so superfluous.

If I want one; I just wait. I promise that will get one within the next few months. :T


In the mean time I keep my BlackBerry 9000 Bold.
So far has been one of the best phones I ever own. +1


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