Windows 10 is "phoning home"

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Windows 10 is "phoning home"

Postby viking60 » 16 Aug 2015, 00:35

Windows 10 is collecting and sending data to a Microsoft server at ssw.live.com

It does not matter if you have turned off all phone home functions - WIndows 10 can't help it.

The usual crap about nothing important being collected is served - and leaves us wondering why anybody would construct the system to gather only crap... :think:
The usual excuse is that the functionality gets better for you and that this will be an advantage.

They all seem to forget the human right of privacy in this equation....

Other traffic looks a little more troublesome. Windows 10 will periodically send data to a Microsoft server named ssw.live.com. This server seems to be used for OneDrive and some other Microsoft services. Windows 10 seems to transmit information to the server even when OneDrive is disabled and logins are using a local account that isn't connected to a Microsoft Account. The exact nature of the information being sent isn't clear—it appears to be referencing telemetry settings—and again, it's not clear why any data is being sent at all. We disabled telemetry on our test machine using group policies.


Furthermore the system is designed to bypass proxies. If there is nothing to hide - why?
And finally, some traffic seems quite impenetrable. We configured our test virtual machine to use an HTTP and HTTPS proxy (both as a user-level proxy and a system-wide proxy) so that we could more easily monitor its traffic, but Windows 10 seems to make requests to a content delivery network that bypass the proxy.


:S Let people choose!
Let the ones that are willing to sacrifice privacy for functionality - keep it and respect the settings of those who turn it off. ..That seems to be the logical and reasonable conclusion.

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Re: Windows 10 is "phoning home"

Postby Snorkasaurus » 16 Aug 2015, 02:30

viking60 wrote:Windows 10 is collecting and sending data to a Microsoft server at ssw.live.com

Okay... I have just blocked ssw.live.com by adding it to my DNS server, and thought that it might be nice if I could locate a list of dns names and/or IP addresses used for "calling home". Are you aware of any such list(s)? Or do you have any more addresses that I can add to my DNS server? Having such a list could help to make "call home" features less useful if widely used. I am already using MVPHosts and my own custom list of ad servers, but ssw.live.com is my first "call home" server.
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Re: Windows 10 is "phoning home"

Postby viking60 » 16 Aug 2015, 18:14

Your approach is a good one :s
I am not aware of any such list but we should make one.

New project for this site:
Make a list of all "phone home" servers! (with links to document it)

The approach is always sneaky - when caught; they naturally only did it in our best interest - so those lists will have to be made. I think you are the closest one to do it.

The industry's attempts to remote controll your computer may be motivated by other Forces too - so this will be a noble quest.
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Re: Windows 10 is "phoning home"

Postby dedanna1029 » 26 Aug 2015, 18:46

Since I can't remember the ones I know of offhand, I ran a search. Came up with "home phone servers", not "phone home servers". Anyone got any better wording for the search?

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