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Ubuntu will not go for Gnome Shell

Posted: 30 Oct 2010, 22:47
by viking60
Ubuntu has been married to Gnome for a long time now. But Gnome obviously has failed to please Ubuntu. They will develop their own desktop called Unity. In fact that is not much of a loss for Gnome because Ubuntu did contribute very little to the Gnome project.
Now we know why:
Ubuntu abandoning Gnome

But I guess we can install Unity on other systems too if it is Open Source. I never am to shore of that with Canonical these days.

Re: Ubuntu will not go for Gnome Shell

Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 01:22
by dedanna1029
I personally love Gnome-shell so will stick with what I got. :D

Re: Ubuntu will not go for Gnome Shell

Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 10:49
by viking60
Yes I guess it is fancy but very different from the present Gnome. Many people are skeptic to change. I think I will use it too when it comes out as Gnome 3

Re: Ubuntu will not go for Gnome Shell

Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 14:31
by dedanna1029
Gnome 3 & gnome shell both are in yaourt right now - have been for a bit. Just run a "yaourt gnome-shell" without the quotes, and if you have it go ahead and install, it will bring in the Gnome 3 desktop (or what Arch is calling it; I'm sure it's probably still devel).

Mandriva's Cooker also I'm thinking at 2009.1 or 2010 had gnome-shell as well - it's where I initially learned about it. Not sure if they've put it in the regular repos though.

Linux Mint I do know was at least kicking around the idea of having gnome-shell for the default desktop, but leave option for people to have regular Gnome as well. Don't know if they ever implemented that though. I think that's overkill myself for something that's just a 3D "layer" of sorts anyway, even though it is so cool - it's not stable enough yet. It would be like leaving compiz on when you logout, and having it on by default when you login to the computer - kinda crashes a few here and there. I know I tried that one time with gnome-shell, and crashed all over the place LOL. Much better just to have it, and turn it on here and there, but as a default desktop?

To be honest, I don't think this is such a smart move on Ubuntu's part, to do away with Gnome-shell. I think Gnome 3 is going to ROCK myself.

Re: Ubuntu will not go for Gnome Shell

Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 14:49
by viking60
Yes The official Gnome is 2.32. Gnome 3 is next. Gnome-shell has been a kind of Gnome3 "beta" for over a year now. I have had it on Mandriva for "ages". Gnome-shell as it is called today will become Gnome3. The old Gnome versions will fade out. Gnome-shell and Gnome 3 are the same. Once Gnome3 is out there will be no more Gnome-shell unless they use it for testing yet another version. It will simply be integrated in Gnome3 as a komponent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell
And after that the use of Compiz is gone! I think Gnome3 will break compiz because it is not needed in KDE (Kwin). There are no platforms left for Compiz after that, unless Ubuntu's Unity can integrate it.

Re: Ubuntu will not go for Gnome Shell

Posted: 31 Oct 2010, 16:20
by dedanna1029
You're probably right there about compiz - but I myself will miss it. It does a lot that KDE's Kwin & Gnome-shell both don't do, imo. And, I'll miss my modded Emerald theme...